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March 26 2009

The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts Me

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What follows is my personal and independent review and experience of what happened to David and Heather when they fostered a Dog with the Blue Cross. It is my personal opinion based on the involvement I have had throughout this process. It is not hearsay, it is based on facts and hard evidence that I have seen, most of which has already been presented on the main story located here. I have worked for 10 years assisting charities with a variety of duties including dog walking, fund raising, adverting and a variety of technical projects which is how I met David and Heather.

dsc02342 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeAs they were not experienced dog trainers, they requested assistance from the Blue Cross as they had been promised training. After many broken promises, David and Heather contacted the fostering project development officer (Denise Young) insisting that they required the training they had been promised. The only available trainer that the Blue Cross had in the area had been fired because they didn’t like her attitude. Again it was promised that as soon as a new trainer was appointed, they would be able to talk to the trainer. Again nothing happened and again they contacted the fostering project development officer (Denise Young) only to find that the Blue Cross had re-hired the trainer they had just fired.

The problem with the trainer was that she refused to offer any advice over the phone and would only assist with training in person during Monday to Friday while her children were at school as she claimed she could not find a babysitter.

Without warning, Denise Young went on holiday but first contacted the local coordinator and instructed her to get the fostered dog transferred to a Blue Cross kennel before she returned from holiday. David and Heather were furious that this had been done behind their back and they contacted the Blue Cross head office.

dsc02310 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeThe Blue Cross held a meeting with Denise Young when she returned from her holiday and she told them that she had told David and Heather to arrange their own training and could not understand why they had not done this and continued to request training. This was an out and out lie. David and Heather not been told to arrange their own training.

When I heard about this I had assumed it was a case of one rotten apple within the charity who was lying to save her job and integrity within the project. I already knew a lot about the Blue Cross and was confidant that they would resolve this problem quickly and fairly.

Instead the Blue Cross set up a sting operation. They invited David, Heather and their fostered dog for one day of training. What was kept secret was that the whole thing was a farce. Before they even arrived at the training, the Blue Cross had already arranged storage and transfer of the fostered dog to their main kennels.

After a very short training exercise where David and Heather learned all they had been asking for since the start and the fostered dog had shown signs of improvement, they were taken inside and told that they should hand over the dog.

Denise Young offered the opportunity for David and Heather to adopt the dog. All they would need to do is complete the paperwork, no checks would need to be done at all as they had already been assessed as foster carers.

David asked if they could have time to think about it. Denise Young wanted them to make the decision in the car park giving them only 20 minutes to decide. David asked for extra time as it was no small decision. There was a lot to check and confirm before David and Heather could make their decision. The behaviorist who attended the training session agreed with David and suggested one week to think about it. Denise refused and offered a maximum of 12 hours.

dsc02312 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeDuring this 12 hour period, David and Heather were unable to contact the Blue Cross head office as the people they needed to talk to were not at work during the weekend. There was also the added problem that most businesses David and Heather needed to contact to confirm training prices, food costs, bedding and all the other accessories that would be required were closed during the weekend.

David made the decision that he would do nothing until he could talk to the person who had arranged the sting operation so that he could find out why this had been done and why they had not been kept informed.

On Monday David talked to the Blue Cross head office and they confirmed that they had planned the whole thing, however they refused to accept that it was done behind their backs (despite the fact that it was not done in front of them, nor had they even been informed of it). They demanded that the Dog be transferred on Tuesday morning and refused to provide any more time even though their own behaviorist had advised one week.

This gave David and Heather just one business day to gather all the information they needed to decide if they could properly afford to keep the dog and provide everything that the dog could possibly need. It simply could not be done in the one available business day.

Again the Blue Cross refused to extend the deadline despite the recommendation of the behaviorist. The Blue Cross confirmed that if David and Heather could adopt the dog, all they would need to do is complete the required paperwork and would not need to be assessed as they had already been assessed.

dsc02345 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeBy the time Tuesday morning came, David and Heather had been unable to gather all the of the information required to make the decision of adopting the dog. Although all they wanted to do was adopt the dog, they understood that it was a big decision that should not be taken lightly. The Blue Cross on the other hand had only offered 20 minutes to 12 hours for the decision to be made.

Heartrendingly, David and Heather handed over the dog on Tuesday morning. By Tuesday evening, they finally had all the information they needed to make a decisive decision and could confirm that by adopting the dog, they could afford and obtain everything they needed to make her a permanent part of their family. They called the Blue Cross who gave a flat out “NO”. They argued the decision based on what they had been told in the past, but the Head of Companion Welfare refused to reply to their e-mails. Undeterred, they contacted the CEO of the Blue Cross who finally agreed that she would let David and Heather have first refusal after they had assessed the dog.

The dogs behavior deteriorated dramatically as soon as she was put in a kennel. David had endlessly warned the Blue Cross about this, but they had refused to listen to him demanding that kenneling the dog was in the dogs best interests. (ask your local vet if a home or kennel is the best place for a dog during training)

Finally, David and Heather were told that they would need to be put through an assessment to make sure they could look after and handle the dog despite everything that the Blue Cross had previously said about not needing an assessment.

sp a0178 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeThe assessment day arrived. David and Heather traveled to the opposite end of the country for the assessment. The Blue Cross CEO, Press Officer, Kennel Manager, Handler and Behaviorist attended the assessment.

In my view, the “review” process was a complete sham. The blue cross said that they would be assessed like anyone who tries to adopt an animal, but it is hard to believe that the Press Officer, CEO, Kennel Manager, Handler and a hired “independent” behaviorist is used for every single adoption application they process.

Before the assessment began, they read the dogs 7 day report which covers their review of her over the first 7 days. Both David and Heather were deeply shocked by the serious problems the dog had produced as soon as she was in the kennel. Over the 7 days her behavior had deteriorated and she currently had a lot more problems than she had ever had when living with David and Heather. I found it very hard to understand why they thought that putting a dog in a kennel and away from the home that she had lived for most of her life was the best thing for the dog. If this were true, it would completely defeat the whole point of adopting the dogs. Why not just keep them locked up in a kennel if that is better for them than a home they have known for most of their life.

Among the things that the dog was no longer good with were groups of people and other dogs. She had never been good with a gentle leader and had always been much better with a normal lead. However, David and Heather were taken with the dog to a fenced in area. On one side of the area was all the people who had turned up for the assessment (6 in all) and on the other side was a barking dog. Still wearing her gentle leader, it would have been very hard to conrol her as she would have spent most of her time trying to get the gentle leader off as she had always done when living with David and Heather. This is exactly what happened and they were marked down by the behavioralist for this. It seems to me like the Blue Cross had put David and Heather into a situation where no experienced dog handler would have been able to pass the assesment. If done on purpose this is what Princeton University refer to as a “Set up” or to “ensnare”. When I heard about this I assumed that any self respecting and professional behaviorist would have taken this into account, however it is as if the behaviorist never read the 7 day report.

sp a0180 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeThe report that was generated from this assessment marked David and Heather down for things that never happened as well as using parts of their conversation with the behaviorist to advise that the dog needed more experienced owners. David and Heather instantly disputed the entire report as being inaccurate and misleading. They requested the name and qualifications of the behaviorist so that they could verify the qualifications and experience of the behaviorist. The Blue Cross refused to look into the blatant inaccuracies and misleading content of the report. They also refused to provide the name or qualifications of the behaviorist.

All the way through this entire process, I had been 100% sure that the Blue Cross would resolve this problem. Instead, they have backed up the Fostering Project Development Officer, despite knowing that she has lied on at least one occasion. There has been a complete opposite between what the Blue Cross said they would do and what they did. David and Heather have given up their time, money, home and life to assist the Blue Cross while the Blue Cross lied to them and operated behind their backs, paying no attention whatsoever to the feelings of the people involved.

sp a0179 150x150 The Blue Cross Charity Disgusts MeWhen the Blue Cross press office was contacted, they confirmed the party line saying that everything had been done in the best interests of the dog, yet it is clear to everyone that the only thing this has done is made the dogs behavior deteriorate to the point that it became a serious concern. The dogs behavior only became a serious concern once they had put her in a kennel.

The Blue Cross clearly thinks that the easiest way out of this situation is to get the dog in their property, refuse to give her up and block all attempts made even if this damages their public image revealing them to be two faced liars. The Blue Cross has point blank refused to answer our questions. They have also done exactly the same to supporters who contacted the Blue Cross on our behalf and have since pledged to never support the Blue Cross again. After all, why should anyone support a charity that believes it can act in this devious manner, get away with it and never have to answer any questions about their actions.

Tinker after a bathI am starting a petition which we will be passed to the Charities Commission as well as every member of government, member of the house of commons and member of the house of lords who has had their name on any animal rights or associated acts. The Blue Cross may be refusing to answer any questions on this matter from David and Heather as well as other supporters, but we will not stop talking about this or pushing it until there is a resolve. Be it that the dog (if still available) be offered to David and Heather with a sincere apology, or we will do all that we can to tell everyone about this story, pushing for a change within the Blue Cross which can be either voluntary or forced. After all, the Blue Cross is knowingly employing someone that has lied and acted in an underhand manner on at least one occasion bringing the charity into disrepute.

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October 22 2008

Blue Cross Dog Foster Scheme – Disaster

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In The Beginning

We registered with the Blue Cross Foster scheme and we went through the interviews and the home visit. We were told by Denise Young (fostering project development officer) at the Blue Cross that there were training opportunities for both handler and dog. We were quite excited about this and we told Denise Young (fostering project development officer) to let us know the details and we would do our utmost to be free to go to them. After all, what do we know about advanced training of dogs.

We were contacted by our area co-ordinator to say that there was a dog available. We went to the co-ordinators house to see the dog and decided to take her on. She was a black Staffie cross puppy with little white patches called Nala.

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Denise Young (fostering project development officer) came round within a few days and again talked about training classes, behavioural classes and socialisation classes. Again, we agreed to do all of the classes. We were warned that we may have to travel for some of the classes up to a few hundred miles. We said that was fine, but we would probably make a weekend of it if that was the case. This was all fine and was left in the hands of Denise Young (fostering project development officer) to arrange.

Nala needed some development with Training

Over the next month or two the dog developed a few minor problems that we couldn’t understand or break her from. We contacted our local behaviourist, Carrie Evans, who had a very bad attitude and said she could only do training face to face and that it would have to wait as she was preparing for a holiday and was really rude to us. Each time we called her and she refused the telephone advice we had been told she offered, we contacted the Denise Young (fostering project development officer) and informed her of this.

During following visits to our home by the Denise Young (fostering project development officer), we again asked about training courses as we had not received a single lesson. We were getting so desperate with the dogs basic problems that we had tried to find information online, but we couldn’t find any advice that worked.

We were told on one visit that the behaviourist had been fired as there had been a lot of other complaints about the same problem we had with her. On Denise Young (fostering project development officer)s next visit she told us that a new behaviourist was being hired and we would shortly be able to contact them instead. After a few weeks we again called the Denise Young (fostering project development officer) to ask when we could have training and socialisation classes and when we could contact the new behaviourist. She told us that they had re hired the old behaviourist and she had forgotten about the lessons but would make sure she got us the details.

Denise Young (fostering project development officer) said that the behaviourist should offer some advice over the phone. Again we called the behaviourist and again she refused to give phone advice and could only do face to face meetings during school hours as she refused to get childcare.

We needed supplies

By this point the dog had outgrown the largest dog bed we had. We had told Denise Young (fostering project development officer) we needed a bigger bed and she had told us she would drop one off along with some wet food. On her last visit to the vet, we had been advised to give the dog a mix of wet and dry food as she seemed to have a sensitive stomach. Denise Young (fostering project development officer) had told us she would deliver some canned food with the dogs new basket.

We kept buying canned food from the local shop, waiting for Denise Young (fostering project development officer) to deliver the correct food.

In the meantime, with the dog now having no bed, we had tried to crate train her for nights. We had been trying to crate train her through the day with mixed results. We started crate training her at night downstairs, but she would constantly whine and bark no matter how long we left her.

We were unable to get extra behavioural support

I made the point that this support service is useless for anyone who works as they will be unable to get any evening or weekend appointments. This must have really pissed off Denise Young (fostering project development officer) at the Blue Cross because she sent us an e-mail claiming that we had resisted the training and socialization classes. She said that it was maybe time to transfer Tinker to a kennel so that they can train out the problems she has. However, she has a major problem with being left alone. The last time she was in the vets over night, she cried the whole time. So much so that the receptionist at the vets screamed at her to shut up. We complained to the Blue Cross about this when we found out it had happened, but the Blue Cross didn’t care.
In the e-mail she also mentioned that she was going on holiday the following day. We later found that she had instructed the area co-ordinator to “Get the dog transferred to kennels and Ignore adopters”.

That’s right, she ordered her to “IGNORE ADOPTERS”. The co-ordinator agreed to hold off on transferring Tinker until we could contact the Blue Cross.

We sought advice from higher levels

I called the Blue Cross and talked to Steve Goody (director of companion animal welfare) who said that he would talk to Denise Young (fostering project development officer) at the Blue Cross when she gets back from her holiday. He agreed that we could keep her until he had had a chance to talk to her and in the meantime he would arrange for their behaviorist to call us.

The behaviorist called and arranged a meeting 2 hours drive away. We agreed to it and were very happy that we were finally getting some movement on the training.

tinker bed time 300x225 Blue Cross Dog Foster Scheme   Disaster

The day before the appointment we were called by Denise Young (fostering project development officer) at the Blue Cross. She said that she had just got back from her holiday and was going to be at the lesson the next day. We were concerned as she had been told about our complaint and really had no reason to be at the lesson. She lives hundreds of miles away from the training center. We were also concerned that she would try and transfer Tinker as we would be unable to contact Steve Goody (director of Companion animal welfare) of the Blue Cross as he does not work weekends and she had called us after he left on friday night. We left a message on his PA’s answer machine voicing our concerns.

We were given an ultimatum

We turned up at the training lesson and spent 30 minutes on a field. We were then taken into an office and they explained that Tinker was not up to the level she should be at. Plus the same reason we were ideal fosters (me working from home) was now a negative and was one of the reasons they wanted to send her to a kennel. But we know she would not survive in a kennel, plus we wanted Steve Goody (director of Companion animal welfare) to confirm any actions and he would not be available until monday at the earliest.

They said that they wanted to take the dog immediately. We were shocked, we hadn’t packed anything for her. She had nothing that was hers. We begged for them to let us think about adopting her. To start with they would only allow us to make this decision in the car park, but eventually they agreed to let us take her home and think about it over night. During this time, Julie Bedford Head of Behaviour had said that “had it been up to her she’d have given us a week, but it was up to Denise”. Denise gave us less than 12 hours.

They then revealed that the kennel center we were at was being refurbished and had no dogs in it AND that she had already arranged for someone to pick up the dog the next day to transfer it to kennels in the Midlands.

Thats right, before we even arrived at the training session they had already arranged the transfer of Tinker.
The reason we had been set up like this, thinking it was a legitimate training session when in reality it was nothing of the sort, was because they said “It would be a logistical nightmare getting Tinker picked up from where she was being fostered”

We were lied to throughout

We have been lied to again. I am refusing to accept their decision as Tinker has came along in leaps and bounds since the training class. She is showing fantastic signs of improvement and using what we were taught, we should easily be able to train all her problems out of her. Like most things it’s not complicated, it’s just a fact of knowing how to properly manage it.

We got in touch with Steve Goody (director of companion animal welfare) who said it was his fault. He had arranged the transfer and he had told Denise Young to do this. We were also told by Steve Goody that Denise had said in her interview on Wednesday that she had left the training in our hands. We were shocked. Not only that he had talked to Denise Young on Wednesday but that he had not bothered himself to call us and tell us so that at the very least we could have defended ourselves. Why would we go to so much trouble calling all of the time if had been in our hands. It was a lie but Steve Goody seemed uninterested. Who knows what other lies have been told? We are absolutely disgusted and will most certainly not be fostering anymore. The Blue Cross, it seems, do not care about their foster carers.

We are only wanting what is best for Tinker and we honestly think that a kennel environment will make her much worse as she is not good with new people. She gets too over excited and will jump up at them trying to play with them. In a kennel she would get a lot of new faces and would from time to time accidentally nip someone. This could easily be misread as aggression and she would be put to sleep.

Once we had spoken to Steve Goody, we were contacted by Denise Young who said we could either drop Tinker off at Thirsk adoption centre or they could drive up for her the next morning. She said the preferable option was for us to drive down. We chose to have her picked up from home the following morning for a number of reasons. We wanted to say our goodbyes and needed more than 10 minutes to do it in. We needed to make it easier on both us and on Tinker. She would be upset and whine for us if we walked away from her, whereas if she was taken away by someone else she would be a bit better.

We spent the whole night with her, cuddled up together in her favourite spot watching her favourite tv program. She got to chew on her rawhide chews and eat a nice meal of boiled chicken and rice. The next morning, we took her for a nice early walk and she looked adorable running around and getting dew on her muzzle. We came back home and she was sick and seemed very quiet. She wasn’t interested in her breakfast and instead lay in her bed.

The two staff from Thirsk centre arrived and piled her things into the van. We then lead her out of the house and into the crate that had been placed into the van. She whined and clawed at the crate to be let out and once we had said our goodbyes, we had to go back in the house, hearing the doors to the van slam shut. We burst into tears and spent the whole day feeling heartbroken. Even though we had done all we could, we still felt that we had failed her.

We had the option to adopt withdrawn

We had been given the option of adopting Tinker but had only been given a very short time in which to think about it, cost it up and commit to Tinker. It wasn’t enough. We had people that we still needed to get in touch with. We simply did not have enough time to fully investigate adoping her so that we could be sure we could offer everything she could possibly need. Given that the blue cross point blank refused to give us any extra time to assess this, our only other option was to hand her back to the blue cross and continue investigating the possability of adopting her.

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Today (Wednesday) we finally had all of the information that we needed and it proved that we could get everything that was required, including immediate training, socialization classes and all of the other stuff the blue cross failed to provide.

We got in touch with Steve Goody and asked if they would revisit the option of us adopting Tinker. We were flatly refused. Here is the email that was sent to us:

Dear Heather

Thank you for your email.

We have a great deal of work to do with Nala before any decisions are made regarding where we eventually place her.

When the time does come to find her a new home, we’ll consider very carefully her requirements and find the home which suits her best.

I appreciate how you may be feeling at the moment, but take comfort from the fact that you did as much as you reasonably could for Nala and are grateful for all your efforts.

Steve Goody

We responded to this email detailing all of Nalas needs and showing that we met each one. We got this reply:

Heather

Thanks for the email.

I advised you of our position this morning which remains unchanged.

As I said, we will work with Nala and progress to placing her in a home appropriate to her needs at a suitable point in the future.

Steve

Again no explanation and another brick wall we are having to bang our heads against.

Where we are now

We are shocked and disgusted. Only a few days ago adoption was a viable option but now we aren’t good enough. We were homechecked as foster carers which is different to adoption in the fact that we are homechecked for any dog rather than a specific dog. We were willing to travel hundreds of miles, stay in a hotel at our own cost just so that we could bring her home and this was rejected. We feel that we are being penalised for making a well thought out decision and not being rash about this. We made extensive enquiries and all we needed was an extra day to get all of the information together. We have compiled evidence that we are in fact telling the truth.

An update

We have emailed Kim Hamilton, CEO of the Blue Cross with this story so far. This was her response:

Dear Heather,
Thank you for your email and bringing this to my attention.  I will investigate and revert to you as soon as possible.
Kim Hamilton.
We are awaiting her response and will update this post as and when.
We have also been in contact with a few newspapers who are interested in the story and have or will call back.

Telephone records

We have collated our telephone records and going on mobile phone calls and SMS alone:

In May 2008 we made 7 telephone calls and 29 SMS messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

In June 2008 we made 2 telephone calls and 11 SMs messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

In July 2008 we made 1 telephone call and 11 SMS messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

In August 2008 we made 4 telephone calls and 8 SMS messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

In September 2008 we made 3 telephone calls and 21 SMS messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

In October 2008 we made 7 telephone calls and 10 SMS messages to Denise Young and our Foster co-ordinator.

Why would we be trying to get in touch to this level if the training sessions had been left in our hands? If we had been left to organise them ourselves and had the facilities to do so, we would not have been contacting them so much because the behaviourist or trainer would have been working with us and Nala’s issues would have been resolved.

Keep checking this page as we are collating evidence on this every day. Please feel free to contact us with regards to anything written on this post.

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